And Matty had got a hold of our new demo at that same time we was talking to Puff about it. And then when we got that offer, at the same time we had a friend over at The Source magazine, Matty C, and he did the Unsigned Hype column and all that. He ain't have no artists yet, and he wanted to sign Mobb Deep first - we were gonna be the first act on Bad Boy. PRODIGY: We actually was gonna sign to Bad Boy at first, 'cause Puff was a friend of ours. PRODIGY: But Q-Tip still showed his love and the whole Tribe did, y'all showed us love, and Chris Lighty - that was our first time meeting Chris Lighty - and he ended up managing us a few years later after that. And of course we didn't get no deal with Def Jam after that. PRODIGY: Yeah, that was our little intro to the music industry. You know? Because he was upset about it - it wasn't anything intentional or nothing like that. It was like, 'Oh man, this is another young black teen that's fallen victim to environment and circumstance.' Messed me up a little bit. I was wondering, 'When will things change?' And I knew that they were talented. But when all of that happened, was like 'Man, explain why you carrying?' And he was explaining to me, 'You know, its problems up in school.' It was a reminder for me when I was growing up. MUHAMMAD: So, Darren – we were close to Darren 'cause Darren worked for the management company, he was just talking about them and really excited about them. Look out for these little n-s, they dope.' So then they started trying to set up a meeting for us with Russell and all that. Come into the office.I'mma introduce you all to some people.' And after that, Q-Tip was just like, 'Yo, look out for these kids, man. People was like, 'Get out of here, shorty, I ain't got time for that.' Q-Tip was the only one that actually stopped and was like, 'Aight, I'll give you all a listen.' So he listened to our music, a few songs, and he was like, 'I like y'all. And we'd seen Q-Tip came out - after like, ten different other rappers. We cut out of school, we used to stand outside Def Jam waiting for a rapper to come out, with our little Walkman or whatever. Def Jam - that's what everybody wanted - to be on Def Jam. Then we would take our demo and we would look on the back of the labels, look for the address. Q-Tip - see this is how we got in the building in the first place: 'cause we used to cut out of school, we used to make our little demo tape at Coney Island in the projects. I was friends with Darren - it was Darren, right? 'What happened?' He explained it just went off, and I was really concerned - like, 'Oh no what's going to happen?' He was young and I knew of them building their career. MUHAMMAD: I felt like, for me - when I got around the corner, I just had a conversation with him. They made up a crazy story that wasn't even true - it was actually the gun went off by mistake, you know what I mean? Then somebody got hit and it just got crazy. Then it was on the radio the next morning that we shot somebody in the office 'cause Lyor didn't wanna sign us. And I'm like, 'Why is he sitting there like that?' I hit the corner, and I see my brother just sitting there. I was, like, yo - chasing whoever/what was shadows moving. Rustling and somebody running down the stairs. The things that go through your mind, like, 'Nah, not - we in an environment that. They had their management office on Elizabeth Street, and we were in there, just having a meeting. At the time - A Tribe Called Quest, we were managed by Chris Lighty - may he rest in peace - and co-managed by Rush Management, Lyor Cohen and Russell Simmons.

PRODIGY: Yeah, 'cause it be like, everybody see it differently. You probably don't even remember that s.

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